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Pope Says Condoms "Not the Answer" in Fight Against AIDS in Africa: Emperor Popetine apparently of the opinion that if you're having recreational sex you deserve to die, also, religious aid workers ask what His Holiness is smoking

Benedict had never directly addressed condom use. He has said that the Roman Catholic Church is in the forefront of the battle against AIDS. The Vatican encourages sexual abstinence to fight the spread of the disease.

...

"You can't resolve it with the distribution of condoms," the pope told reporters aboard the Alitalia plane headed to Yaounde, Cameroon, where he will begin a seven-day pilgrimage on the continent. "On the contrary, it increases the problem."


What.

WHAT.

Seriously, WHAT THE FUCKING HELL IS THIS BULLSHIT.

Some priests and nuns working with those living with HIV/AIDS question the church's opposition to condoms amid the pandemic ravaging Africa.

"Excuse us, sir, but people are dying horribly. Can we pleeeease pass out condoms now, seeing as they're the only thing that makes a serious dent in the transmission rates of STDs?"
"No. Tell them to stop having sex."
"Sir, that's not really going to--"
"SILENCE! I AM THE POPE! THAT MEANS I WIN!"

This 'don't use condoms, use abstinence' thing is, like all abstinence-based programs, utterly worthless and bordering on criminally negligent. A lot of women in certain regions of Africa don't get to turn to men who want to have sex with them and go, "I'm sorry, but I'm saving myself for a mutually monogamous relationship." And hell, completely monogamous marriages are rare enough in cultures that glorify it, much less in cultures that say a man isn't a man unless he's getting some booty on the side.

THIS IS GOING TO KILL PEOPLE. AND OTHER PEOPLE WILL SAY IT'S OKAY, BECAUSE THEY WERE OBVIOUSLY SINNERS AND DESERVED TO DIE.

ARG ARG ARG ARG *froth flail chew carpet*

ETA: France, Germany, UN AIDS Task Force Reaction to Pope's Comments Best Summed Up as "WTH, Benedict, WTH."

"Condoms save lives, in Europe as well as on other continents," the ministers said. "Modern assistance to the developing world today must make access to family planning available to the poorest of the poor — especially the use of condoms. Anything else would be irresponsible."

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Date: 2009-03-17 07:41 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] erinlin.livejournal.com
There are days where I miss being Catholic. Then stuff like this happens, and I remember why I left.


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Date: 2009-03-17 07:51 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] kotszok.livejournal.com
LOL This is one of the examples of why I, while being a practicing Catholic, have great issues with the CHURCH. Not God.

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Date: 2009-03-17 07:58 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] rain-explodes.livejournal.com
Who hired this guy, seriously?

Can we not have a vote on Pope-hood? >/

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Date: 2009-03-18 03:46 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] chibi-trillian.livejournal.com
You have to be a member of the College of Cardinals first, THEN you get to vote on the Pope. We'd have to disguise oursides as boys, make it through seminary school, and then spend forty years rising through the ranks of the Catholic Church without being discovered, but it's theoretically possible.

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Date: 2009-03-18 03:50 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] rain-explodes.livejournal.com
TO THE CHRUCHMOBILE!

*Action music*

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Date: 2009-03-18 04:13 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] chibi-trillian.livejournal.com
KUNG FU ACTION JEEEEEESUS~
SAVING SOULS AT THE SPEED OF LIGHT
SMITING WITH HIS ROD OF GODLY MIGHT
IT'S KUNG FU ACTION JEEEEESUS~
LIBERAL HIPPIES BETTER LOOK OUT
AND ATHEISTS WILL SCREAM AND SHOUT
FOR KUNG FU ACTION JEEEEESUS~
POPEMOBILE TRANSFORM! GO GO GO!

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Date: 2009-03-18 04:20 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] rain-explodes.livejournal.com
HOLY OUTRAGE, BATMAN!

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Date: 2009-03-17 08:18 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] skyrat13.livejournal.com
BE PERFECT OR DIE kthxbai.

....

You should read the book 'Scepticism Inc.' by Bo Fowler.

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Date: 2009-03-18 03:51 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] chibi-trillian.livejournal.com
If you want skepticism, my first thought was "Man, the Pope's come up with a potentially lethal method of population control for an 'undesireable' group of people. That Holocaust-denying business suddenly makes more sense now." My brain has rejected that thought to preserve what little faith in humanity I have left. ._.

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Date: 2009-03-17 08:56 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] spedangel.livejournal.com
I remember a few years ago reading an article about a 'plan' to help stop the AIDS epidemic. They were going to tell all the women--not the men--to abstain from having sex for 5 years. ... ... I am sorry that the Pope is still advocating ways that can not help the problem at all. Maybe HE should go to these villages and tell the people to stop having sex in person. Then he can have an opinion other than one based on an out-dated system of texts and beliefs!

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Date: 2009-03-17 09:01 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] stalkerbunny.livejournal.com
Just heard this on the radio and...well, I don't get angry easily, but WTF, Pope. D:

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Date: 2009-03-17 09:45 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] oddrid.livejournal.com
yeah i raged about this earlier

i can't even think about it without getting enraged

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Date: 2009-03-17 10:49 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] genuinelie.livejournal.com
I have been of the opinion that Popetine is the anti-christ, if such a thing exists.

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Date: 2009-03-18 12:27 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] skyrat13.livejournal.com
Remember, the Anti-christ can't show up until AFTER the Rapture. The crazy guys on the TV explained that's why Obama can only be the harbringer of the anti-christ, not the Antichrist himself XP

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Date: 2009-03-17 11:45 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] nike-victory.livejournal.com
And this is not only why I'm not Catholic, but I attend a denomination that votes it's leaders in (as well as supporting gay marriage and equal rights and important stuff like that).

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Date: 2009-03-18 01:02 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] clockworkhappy.livejournal.com
... Wow. I love how openly fucking stupid that organization can be. Condoms don't help prevent the spread of disease-- of course not! They don't really work in preventing pregnancy either!

Brings me back to my Jr. High days of Teen Issues and the whole abstinence spiels that were crammed down our throats. Disgusting.

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Date: 2009-03-18 04:06 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] chibi-trillian.livejournal.com
"Teen Issues"?

I'm sorry, excuse me while I snerk my soda. WTF happened to "Sex Ed"? I had honest-to-god Sex Ed, and my teacher made the boys practice putting condoms on bananas and discussed how douching with Coke is NOT effective birth control, no matter what your best friend says. THIS IS USEFUL INFORMATION FOR YOUR EVERYDAY LIFE. Then again, the Bush administration didn't take power until I was nearly out of high school. >_>

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Date: 2009-03-18 06:16 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] clockworkhappy.livejournal.com
We just had those abstinence hipsters come in with their god awful presentations. I'll never forget- my favorite one involved a present wrapped in gold paper with bows and frills and shit, while the other was just wrapped up in the funny papers. CAN YOU GUESS WHICH ONE SYMBOLIZED PRE-MARITAL SEX?

I was the little shit who said the gold paper looked tacky and the present inside was more than likely a letdown. At least you could always look back to the funny papers and laugh.

I'm lucky I had at least one parent willing to discuss with me what should have been taught in that class, though. I view the majority of the rest of my generation pretty fucked-- seeing as how my own step-sister is of the firm belief that drinking a cap full of BLEACH can prevent pregnancy.

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Date: 2009-03-18 04:28 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] dethorats.livejournal.com
Sigh. As ignorant, unrealistic, and disgusting as this is, I keep reminding myself that the Pope is a celibate old German dude. Who was probably too fugly to get any which is why he entered the priesthood and thinks it's easy to abstain.

Well. At least Obama got rid of Bush's ridiculous aid restrictions so maybe the US can contribute more to make up for the Pope's misguided views.

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Date: 2009-03-18 03:58 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] chibi-trillian.livejournal.com
Here's hoping, because god only knows they really need the help. ._. That said, it is kind of nice having a government that doesn't live in Socialconservativeland (where science is weak sauce but the Bible is infallible).

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Date: 2009-03-18 03:27 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] runic-binary.livejournal.com
Excuse me while I FLAIL IN RAGE.

Jesus fucking Christ.

Hey, I was gonna ask if I could link you over at [livejournal.com profile] shangy_feminism, but I just noticed the post is f-locked. Can I just link the article and say I found it on your journal?

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Date: 2009-03-18 03:43 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] chibi-trillian.livejournal.com
Eh, I'll unlock it. I put most of my religion-related screaming under f-lock for the protection of the innocent, the misguided, and the adorable baby seals, but in this case the baby seals are going to have to suck it up and deal.

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Date: 2009-03-18 04:02 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] runic-binary.livejournal.com
Sweet, thanks! We have a "play nice" clause that counts as a banning offense if broken, just for the record.

Also, you should come check it out. We are always grubbing for new members. XD

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Date: 2009-03-18 06:03 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] joyshine.livejournal.com
*waves* Here via the shangy_feminism community.
Thanks for posting this!
I am amused (coldly, in the midst of my ARG, WTF?) by the fact that one of my 18-year-old college freshmen wrote a fine paper on Why Abstinence Only Sex Ed Doesn't Work...and yet His Popeness can't seem to get it. Gr.

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